13:10:06 From Bryce Yadon to Hosts and panelists: I don't remember being asked to sign up for these options 13:13:33 From Bryce Yadon to Hosts and panelists: thanks, I think that makes more sense 13:17:23 From Dave Andersen to Hosts and panelists: The statutory requirement would be "review and revise if necessary" 13:19:11 From Jan Himebaugh to Hosts and panelists: who determines the necessity of review and revise? if it's a self examination, i have less confidence in self evaluation 13:20:45 From Jan Himebaugh to Hosts and panelists: well then they will almost always determine that they don't need to go through the "fun" 13:24:05 From Dave Andersen to Hosts and panelists: There is a small and slow growing threshold in the update statue now: Less than five thousand and a growth rate of less than 17 percent, or a total growth of less than 100 people. 13:24:35 From Bryce Yadon to Hosts and panelists: thanks, Dave, I was trying to remember what the current cutoff was. Appreciate you sharing the information 13:26:03 From Jan Himebaugh to Hosts and panelists: i think the key on the permit timeline reporting is for actual days from initial permit application to final decision. not just "legal" days 13:28:37 From Jeff Clarke to Hosts and panelists: Is there a survey of which cities and counties allow/disallow middle housing options? 13:29:46 From Tim Gates to Hosts and panelists: Clay, will you invite DNR to the 8/23 enviro mtng for the discussion on Forest Practices Act and intersection with GMA? It might make sense for them to hear the discussion 13:30:17 From Dave Andersen to Hosts and panelists: The compare/contrast with Oregon and California on middle housing is something Joe Tovar is digging into for us right now. 13:30:28 From Matt Covert to Tim Gates(Direct Message): Absolutely Tim! Will get them invited 13:31:02 From Matt Covert to Tim Gates(Direct Message): Who with DNR? 13:33:08 From Matt Covert to Emma Dorazio(Direct Message): Emma, do you have a contact with DNR for the 8/23 enviro discussion? 13:33:42 From Emma Dorazio to Matt Covert(Direct Message): Yes, I shared it with Deric and we're planning to invite Millie from the office of equity 13:34:57 From Tim Gates to Matt Covert(Direct Message): Since this is about legislation you might want to start with their leg liaison, whose name is also Tim Gates, Tim.Gates@dnr.wa.gov. (Yes, we do get each other's emails sometimes:-) Tim might suggest a staff person in the Forest Practices Division. 13:36:09 From Matt Covert to Everyone: there was a lot of cross over with governance best practices and additional resources from commerce here 13:51:19 From Bryce Yadon to Hosts and panelists: I would like to help as well. 13:52:58 From Chris Collier - APA to Hosts and panelists: Clay if you would like representation from APA on that pickup meeting, let me know and I'll put the word out. 14:00:21 From Jan Himebaugh to Hosts and panelists: agree with Bill's question, what replaces it? i'm not sure i have the right answer 14:00:37 From Jan Himebaugh to Hosts and panelists: we would also rather get permits done :) 14:01:04 From Jan Himebaugh to Hosts and panelists: sorry, i'm double booked at not really in a place i can speak in a way that is productive -- too much background noise 14:24:54 From Carlene Anders to Hosts and panelists: Thank you Clay.